What's a good mid ranged brass snare?

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Looking at different snares for metal music. I really like the sound of the JT147 but can't find it for sale anywhere.

Not sure if I should get something deep or a piccolo or whatever. Just something really good for metal without a crazy price tag.
 

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My initial thought was to buy a 6.5 x 14 Slingerland brass snare drum for about $200. But the 2mm shell on the one you are looking at puts it into a different category. There are milled brass shells out there that are 3mm thick, 5mm at the bearing edge. Lots of makers used this identical shell from a 3rd party (Worldmax???) and you could look for it across brands. I have the milled stainless steel version of this 3rd party shell, the Mike Marsh model from DDrum which I bought used at a pro shop (Trading Musician) for $280.

Perhaps others will come along to fill in the details that I cannot recall.
 

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Not brass, but the Gretsch Brooklyn steel snares are 2mm thick with 3mm hoops. It has the cut of steel with more focus than a typical 1mm shell. You can get them for around $250 new.

And for brass on a budget, it's hard to beat Pork Pie.
 

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I bought an Ahead black chrome over brass snare several years ago for under $250 at the time. 6x14 with S hoops. Has been the work horse for me in blues and classic rock music.
 

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I too was going to recommend the WorldMax-based drums like the Pork Pie BOB or the Ludwig Black Magic. I recently had a Black Magic and let me tell you, if you can find one with die cast hoops that drum is loud and cutting as can be.

But then I read the suggestions for a good heavy steel shell snare and think that might do what you’re looking for. So give that a try. But if it were me (and it’s not, I’m not a metal guy), I would definitely go for a 6.5 or 8 inch depth.
 

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Pork Pie black brass. Usually around $300.

The DW Design brass snare is good, too.

Or go on Drum Factory Direct, buy a World Max shell and parts and make your own.
 

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I have a PDP black ace in 5x14 black nickel over brass in good shape that sounds nice.

If you want a 7" deep brass, I used to have the Pork Pie patina snare but that's a 13" wide. Killer sound though and awesome finish.
 
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That DW Design sounds really good in the videos I'm hearing. If I went that route is the 6.5" a big difference from the 5.5"?

It's hard to judge based off YouTube with so many different variables depending on which video im watching.
 

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That DW Design sounds really good in the videos I'm hearing. If I went that route is the 6.5" a big difference from the 5.5"?

It's hard to judge based off YouTube with so many different variables depending on which video im watching.
Last Xmas they were $279 direct from DW.
Now the are $319.
$40 buck upcharge.
 

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I play hard rock and metal too. My 6.5”x14” DW Collector’s brass is perfect. 3mm thick!

These new Pearl Matt Halpern brass snares look/sound great too...

If those are a bit too expensive, I’d look into a Ludwig Nickel over Brass Black Magic Snare or a DW Collector’s Black Nickel over Brass Snare. They both sound awesome and are available in 8” depths as well.

Ludwig Black Beauty Snares sound fantastic too, but they are more money.
 
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Ended up ordering the DW Design Series Snare Drum - 6.5 x 14 inch - Black Nickel Over Brass

Thanks for the suggestions, im sure anything will be better that what im using.
Great choice.. I have the 5.5 (as seen above) and really want a 6.5 brass. Sell it to me if you do not like it!
I love mine, NO regrets.

The DW snares (IMHO) really have a lot more character than the Pork Pie/World Max/PDP Ace/Black Magic snares that all seem rather generic and interchangeable. Plus tube lugs are just an antiquated design... too easy to cross threads. Who needs that in life?
 
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Pork Pie BOB, Ludwig Black Magic, and DW Design are all pretty much interchangeable imo. I've owned all three. I guess it would come down to the size you want and maybe the finish. the PP has quite a few finishes like the patina and the pork rub, and they offer 13", whereas the DW only offers 14". I know older models of the Black Magic came in 13", but not sure about newer ones. They all sound great for $300 though.
 

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I play hard rock and metal too. My 6.5”x14” DW Collector’s brass is perfect. 3mm thick!

These new Pearl Matt Halpern brass snares look/sound great too...

If those are a bit too expensive, I’d look into a Ludwig Nickel over Brass Black Magic Snare or a DW Collector’s Black Nickel over Brass Snare. They both sound awesome and are available in 8” depths as well.

Ludwig Black Beauty Snares sound fantastic too, but they are more money.
I have the same Collectors with brass rims and lugs. Great sounding but heavy!
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While I wouldn't consider it mid-range, I have the Yamaha Recording Custom 14x6.5 Brass Snare and it's a force to be reckoned with. The solid build quality is worth the extra money.



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