Why so few Paiste Signature 22" Rides out there?

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DrumKeys said:
No love for the 21" Masters Medium Ride? It's a true gem!
I played one several years ago, I really liked it at the time. It belonged to another drummer who was sharing his cymbals on a Christmas show I was involved with. He had it paired with 18 & 20 Twenty Custom full crashes and a pair of original 14 Twenty hats. The whole set sounded great together.
 

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IIRC, the Innovations line was basically 2002 bronze alloy with Signature lathing, hammering, and finishing, no?

I never bought any, but it was an interesting hybrid. Found them interesting in shops, but never committed...wishing I had...or that they bring it back in some form or fashion.

I'm suddenly feeling a need to seek them out on the 'Bay, Reverb, GC, etc.
 

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dje31 said:
IIRC, the Innovations line was basically 2002 bronze alloy with Signature lathing, hammering, and finishing, no?

I never bought any, but it was an interesting hybrid. Found them interesting in shops, but never committed...wishing I had...or that they bring it back in some form or fashion.

I'm suddenly feeling a need to seek them out on the 'Bay, Reverb, GC, etc.
The Innovations were their own thing. There were some finishing/lathing/hammerings that were developed with that line that trickled into some of the later Dimensions models (Crunch hats, Medium Heavy Wild ride, etc). It certainly wasnt the Signature treatment.
 

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I own a few 20" Paiste rides (the 20" Signature Power Ride is a beast with a bell from hell) but my 22's get way more stand time - 22" 2002 red label for rock and blues, 22" Dark Energy Mk 1 for lower volume and 22" 602 Dark Ride ANYTIME!!!!! Oh, and I have a 22" medium 602 from '74 which only really works as a ride in acoustic settings but then it works better than any other cymbal that I own.
 

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I've used a Paiste 22" ride since 1986. The only thing I would change to would be a 24" 2002 or a 22"/24" 602.
 

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Funny because my favorite rides are 22" Paiste Signature!

22" Sig Dark Dry Ride - to me, this is what a dry ride should be. Musical, not overly dry, great bell separation and definition. Records amazing.

22" Sig Dark Metal Ride - similar to above, but just slightly more wash due to the lathed edge. Bell is a little more cutting, being lathed.

22" Sig Bell Ride (Powerslave) - bright, cutting, but not crazy though. Musical and shimmering, with great bell. Good amount of wash, but overtones are under control.
 

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Ahh okay. Definitely believe you it's just that the PST8's look very similar to the alphas.

Btw apparently the alphas are still going strong on the paiste thailand website :icon_lol: http://www.paistethailand.com/store/c8/Alpha.html

I used ALPHAs about 10 years ago and really liked the sound. I could kick myself for getting rid of them. But this go around I went with the PST8s and I can tell you they sound just as good. I did a sound test on my youtube. Its a rock recording EQed and mixed and it gives you a good idea of how they perform in a rock environment. Check it out:
 

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The Alpha flat ride was a gem.
As for the 8 line from Paiste,OK hi hats and crashes,rides liack character.
Too thin sounding for my tastes.
 

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I usually like my cymbals a bit thinner and brighter. Guess it's just a matter of taste. I prefer the Signature sound, but these fit my budget and the sound in my opinion is great for the money.
 

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