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Why was the 18” Turkish K the most common size?

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I have had around 100 of them..(all sizes ..from small Splashes to 24” Rides) so..I know from experience…

Curious why…..
 

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Thanks,as always…

I did not really figure hats into the equation….

it just seems like I had so many 18”s…that they were the most common…I just sold one recently..and can get 3 more now…
 

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Thanks,as always…

I did not really figure hats into the equation….

it just seems like I had so many 18”s…that they were the most common…I just sold one recently..and can get 3 more now…
Makes me think of that beautiful, otherworldly 18" old K that we played at your place back in the late '90s. Wasn't familiar with "eras" at the time. But boy ol' boy, wish I would have bought it! Lol.
 

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I think I know which one..of which you speak of!

Paid $50 for it.late 1980s….had factory rivets..

Should have kept it!..DOH….
You guys lucked out being able it get it while the gettin was good! Everything is so crazy overpriced now
 

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My guess is 1) it’s a common size so a lot of them were produced, and 2) more of them survived compared to all the 20’s and 22’s that have been broken over the years.
 

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I think 18 being a less desirable size, people are more willing to put them up for sale. Compared to the more desirable 20s and 22s, which people hang on to.
 

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Could it have to do with volume “norms” way back when when everything was acoustic?
 

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That's how the cymbals "were used" Istanbul Old K weren't and right up to the end never tailored, never specifically "built" drum set Cymbals; they were 'all orchestral'

Can't talk about old K Istanbul as if talking about "Sabian". (unless it's the Orchestral section)

they never adopted what western set drummers were about; only thru Phil Grant sending them some/ few hints....about Drum set.
They were Pairs/ Singles/ weight and diameter.

They weren't ever 'tailored' for drum set.
That was just a...how NY and other drummers used them

they were band/ orchestral/pair/suspended/ weights/ diameters. Ideally each had all the partials like an orchestral cymbal. NO drum set consciousness. That was just a fluke side use

"left Side Dark Ride Heavy" was nOt in their consciousness;
that was what drummers found them out to be (or not)

They weren't tailored for drum set
They never had no internal " Drum Set artist development program director"..

Avedis were tailored; soon after their conception thanks to Avedis, Krupa , Cliff Leeman, et al putting their heads together
Istanbul and Bosphorus later on were more aware conscious and tailored product to drum set use


Old K Istanbul were more like the eternal Symphonic section of the Avedis catalog
It was just happenstance some set players found good use for them in a drum set

you can't think in Sabian/ Avedis drum set terms with them; they were band cymbals/ singles/ pairs/ weights/ diameters/
Not Tailored for drum set use

They internally never got to that; any advertising or ink stamp to the contrary came from the outside; either from a distributor, from Phil Grant/ Gretsch adding some spice to their promotion..

they were band and hand cymbals ( standing cymbals not sitting at a drum set cymbals)
that just happened onto "cross-use'..
 
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It was a reasonably common ride size back in the early 60s. I am talking instrumental rock mostly (i.e., Ventures, etc.) My main ride back then was an 18" Zildjian.
 


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