Yamaha EAD10

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Anyone try one of these yet? If so, what are your thoughts about it. Looks intriguing for live sound reinforcement & maybe home recording, IF the digital side of it has nuance in dynamics & timbres, not just firing off single samples.
 

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I love mine. Like Treviso said, this is a game changer! For me, no more setting up individual drum mics! My EAD goes into one channel on the board. I use it only for live sound reinforcement. It's a no brainer when needing to mic the drums up.
 

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I was at Pro Drum Shop in Hollywood yesterday, checking out the new Ludwig strainers. There was a nice, small, Yamaha kit set up with the EAD10 and I was invited to try it out. Well...I was impressed! The sales person and I discussed it's virtues for quite some time. One of my thoughts was how it would work for quiet practice, say with Mesh heads and cymbals. The salesman agreed! While he didn't have any mesh heads, he did bring over the Mesh cymbals in Ride and HH versions. Wow, they really sounded great through the headphones! I come from the generation of reel-to-reel decks and 16-channel mixing consoles. What you can accomplish with the EAD10 just boggles the mind!

-Mark
 

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Do you guys mic up the high hat, or put overhead mics on your kit when using the EAD live?


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T-Dawg_CDN said:
Do you guys mic up the high hat, or put overhead mics on your kit when using the EAD live?


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For small and mid sized venues, it seems to pick up the hats just fine.
 

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xsabers said:
Do you guys mic up the high hat, or put overhead mics on your kit when using the EAD live?


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For small and mid sized venues, it seems to pick up the hats just fine.
Thanks for the reply. I'm looking forward to trying this unit out. So far it's been good at practice.
 

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T-Dawg_CDN said:
Do you guys mic up the high hat, or put overhead mics on your kit when using the EAD live?


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For small and mid sized venues, it seems to pick up the hats just fine.
Thanks for the reply. I'm looking forward to trying this unit out. So far it's been good at practice.



You should record yourself using the on board recorder and listen to the mix. That should tell you if your hats and cymbals are being picked up sufficiently.
 

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xsabers said:
Do you guys mic up the high hat, or put overhead mics on your kit when using the EAD live?


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Troy
For small and mid sized venues, it seems to pick up the hats just fine.
Thanks for the reply. I'm looking forward to trying this unit out. So far it's been good at practice.



You should record yourself using the on board recorder and listen to the mix. That should tell you if your hats and cymbals are being picked up sufficiently.




Thanks for the idea. It worked great. No need to mic up the hats, but I found out my USB stick isn't fast enough. lol
 

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RE: picking up cymbals. I've found just the opposite. I had to raise my ride cymbal a foot or so as it was picking up too much in the EAD. It wasn't much of an adjustment so it wasn't a big deal. I previously had my ride low and tight just over my floor tom.

Also, if you like a 5 piece kit and don't have your two mounted toms on the kick, but rather to the left side. It doesn't pick up the left tom as much as the right. Again it's not too big of a deal, just something to be aware of. If you run the two mounted toms on the kick, then the EAD mic module goes between them and balances better and probably also shields it a bit from the ride. So probably if you run a standard 5 piece with kick mounted toms, all is good and in balance. Anything out of that norm and you might have to make adjustments.

One other nit to pick.. The stock presets (they call them scenes) don't have a consistent output level. Which will screw with your levels in your PA and is really unacceptable. The workaround is to copy the scene's that you want to use to user scenes and edit the overall output volume for each of them to match. Fortunately there is a setting in each preset for overall volume but it does take some fiddling with to them to a consistent volume level. You can't modify the stock presets, so you have to copy the preset to a user scene to edit it.

But it is a really nice unit and can really give you the ability to have different sounds in a live show, which is what I use it for. I will also record it when I do studio work along with the traditional mics, never hurts to have the option of mixing in those sounds.

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gbow said:
RE: picking up cymbals. I've found just the opposite. I had to raise my ride cymbal a foot or so as it was picking up too much in the EAD. It wasn't much of an adjustment so it wasn't a big deal. I previously had my ride low and tight just over my floor tom.

Also, if you like a 5 piece kit and don't have your two mounted toms on the kick, but rather to the left side. It doesn't pick up the left tom as much as the right. Again it's not too big of a deal, just something to be aware of. If you run the two mounted toms on the kick, then the EAD mic module goes between them and balances better and probably also shields it a bit from the ride. So probably if you run a standard 5 piece with kick mounted toms, all is good and in balance. Anything out of that norm and you might have to make adjustments.

One other nit to pick.. The stock presets (they call them scenes) don't have a consistent output level. Which will screw with your levels in your PA and is really unacceptable. The workaround is to copy the scene's that you want to use to user scenes and edit the overall output volume for each of them to match. Fortunately there is a setting in each preset for overall volume but it does take some fiddling with to them to a consistent volume level. You can't modify the stock presets, so you have to copy the preset to a user scene to edit it.

But it is a really nice unit and can really give you the ability to have different sounds in a live show, which is what I use it for. I will also record it when I do studio work along with the traditional mics, never hurts to have the option of mixing in those sounds.

gabo
The spread on the mics is adjustable, so you can tweak it out to suit your kit configuration.
 

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Hey guys. First post. I just bought an EAD10 and I’m having an issue that I am hoping someone can help me with... the kick trigger is really weak. It’s only triggering when I slam into it! I’m not getting any lighter/ghost notes. I’ve played with the sensitivity and still nothing. I’ve hooked up other triggers and works perfectly so I know it’s not the head unit. Any thoughts?
 

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Answered by a few posters in the other thread. Good luck.
 

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2 questions that maybe somebody can answer please:
1. Is their a limit to how many drums that single mic unit can pickup? I have a big kit with a lot of drums and cymbals.
2. Since the mic unit is also a bass trigger does that mean the bass trigger is always active as long as the unit is running?
 

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2 questions that maybe somebody can answer please:
1. Is their a limit to how many drums that single mic unit can pickup? I have a big kit with a lot of drums and cymbals.
2. Since the mic unit is also a bass trigger does that mean the bass trigger is always active as long as the unit is running?
1. The mics will lose volume on drums and cymbals based on their relative distance. For example, a second floor tom would be much lower in the mix. These are really best on 4- or 5-piece traditional setups.
2. You can defeat the bass drum trigger by turning the trigger knob all the way down, I believe. If not, you can unplug the appropriate cable from the back of the unit.
 

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1. The mics will lose volume on drums and cymbals based on their relative distance. For example, a second floor tom would be much lower in the mix. These are really best on 4- or 5-piece traditional setups.
2. You can defeat the bass drum trigger by turning the trigger knob all the way down, I believe. If not, you can unplug the appropriate cable from the back of the unit.
Well good to know, so it won't work for me I guess. I have the equivalent of like 3-5 piece kits. Maybe they will come up with a way to have extra mikes or something for people with bigger kits. After I posted this last night I found a video on youtube where the guy complained about that. He had 2 floor toms and the deeper one couldn't be heard because of the distance from the mic. He put up a recording and it was true, you could hear the drum but no effect in the background. It's understandable though that this limitation exists. It's one little unit in the middle and you can't expect everything out of it. The other workaround I guess is separate triggers for the drums that are not heard. But this defeats the purpose of this product and also increases the cost. I guess I'm out for now!
 

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