Yamaha Tour Custom vs Stage Custom Birch

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I am stuck in the middle of knowing which drum kit to buy. I know what the stage custom birch sounds like and I absolutely love it. However, I recently had a chance to try the 14 x 6.5 Snare Drum for the tour custom and it sounds incredible to my ears. I don't know how the Tcustom toms sound in comparison to the birch though.

Anyone try them and want to share how they sounded? Or even better have tried both :)
Any closer to a decision? Think the Tours are worth the extra cost for you.

I think the Tour and Stage are both fine drums, depending on what you're looking for.
 

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One reason I would consider an SC kit (and may in fact pick one up soon...) is how cheap, varied, and prevalent the add-on pieces are. I’ve spent a ridiculous amount of energy over the years looking for specific drums to complete long-discontinued sets. So the fact that I could grab anything from an 8” tom to a 24” bass drum brand new without having to hunt for them or sell a kidney when I find them is pretty appealing. Not that I would go all Neil Peart (RIP) with an SC kit, but knowing that I could is nice.
 

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One reason I would consider an SC kit (and may in fact pick one up soon...) is how cheap, varied, and prevalent the add-on pieces are. I’ve spent a ridiculous amount of energy over the years looking for specific drums to complete long-discontinued sets. So the fact that I could grab anything from an 8” tom to a 24” bass drum brand new without having to hunt for them or sell a kidney when I find them is pretty appealing. Not that I would go all Neil Peart (RIP) with an SC kit, but knowing that I could is nice.
Thats what i did with one of my SC kits,added 9x13 and a14 fltm.
My current is 10,12,14,16,20,added the 16.
So,yes,very expandable.
 

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I bought this 12,16,24" SCB shellpack from a forumite a couple years ago and it's been an ideal gigging kit.
User friendly, good value, fairly lightweight, easy to tune, play and pack, plus nice attack-heavy birch tonality.
Seller replaced the batter hoops with 2.3 hoops and I added a BD shell mounted ride cymbal holder. Yeah, they're pretty nice drums!



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Stage Customs all the way. I don't think you get a better kit for the money when you buy the Tour Custom. There's no way you'll regret a SC kit once you get it tuned up. I have had a few sets of Yamahas ranging from Stage Customs to Recording Customs. I currently have a Maple/Birch Custom Absolute kit. I thought the Stage Customs sounded every bit as good as the Recording Customs. They do feel a little cheap (because they are) but that's exactly how the Tour Customs feel too.
 

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I bought this 12,16,24" SCB shellpack from a forumite a couple years ago and it's been an ideal gigging kit.
User friendly, good value, fairly lightweight, easy to tune, play and pack, plus nice attack-heavy birch tonality.
Seller replaced the batter hoops with 2.3 hoops and I added a BD shell mounted ride cymbal holder. Yeah, they're pretty nice drums!



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+1 on the cymbal mount!
 

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I don’t think they feel cheap. Lightweight maybe but well finished. With the NA maple, sturdier upgraded hoops, higher lug count, Remo heads, and for me, more preferred bass drum depths, along with Satin finishes, they seem fine for the price.
Also when I compared them to the Stages (which are great, no doubt) the interiors and edges seemed smoother and more finished.
I just prefer maple, and they are simple budget friendly, but quality maple drums.
Also, I hear the snares are fantastic, although not included.
if budget is your priority, then SC by all means, but if you want nice, gig friendly intermediate maple,TC are great for a bit more.
 

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Also, it was my understanding that the shells are NA interior and outer And European Maple inner, not Chinese. FWIW
 

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I don’t think they feel cheap. Lightweight maybe but well finished. With the NA maple, sturdier upgraded hoops, higher lug count, Remo heads, and for me, more preferred bass drum depths, along with Satin finishes, they seem fine for the price.
Also when I compared them to the Stages (which are great, no doubt) the interiors and edges seemed smoother and more finished.
I just prefer maple, and they are simple budget friendly, but quality maple drums.
Also, I hear the snares are fantastic, although not included.
if budget is your priority, then SC by all means, but if you want nice, gig friendly intermediate maple,TC are great for a bit more.
Couldn't agree more, Drumprof. They are very lightweight, which to me, is a preference. The only comparatively lightweight drums I've owned are INDes, and build quality on these Tour Customs is equal to my old INDes, no question. And yes, the TC interior and bearing edges are perfect on every shell I have, and clearly superior to the Stage Customs in the Drummer's Review video I posted earlier. Take a look:

Stage Custom bearing edge:

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Tour Custom bearing edge:

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My Stage Custom birch (new in 2015) have perfect bearing edges. Best drums for the $ IMHO.
Love Yamaha hardware, my lightweight stands can support a standard Yamaha triple Tom holder & work great, interchange with all my Y gear.
The only down side to SCB drums is that the lugs are not equal to the higher end lines and de-tune pretty easily. I don’t hit hard. Had Yam oak customs at the same time so experienced the difference.
(Sold the oaks, SCB do the job in the bars I play.)
I bought “Lockerz” lug locks and they fixed the de-tuning problem. Yes they are a bit obnoxious in appearence so might not be for everyone, locktight Is another option.
I’ve been complemented many times about the sound of my SCB. Coated Emps on toms top, clear Ambas. on resonants, Aquarian Superkick on 20” bass. I use PR bags but it’s not a huge deal if they get some scratches, best players drums for weekend warrior like me ;)
 

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Ya, the 1.6 mm hoops do flex more, causing the tuning to change. I fixed this by putting Drumfactorydirect.com Nylok tension rods on all the batter sides. My drums haven’t budged since.

 

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As a fairly new owner of a Tour Custom set, I find that statement curious. Just how do the TCs feel "cheap"?
I spoke too soon. The only new Tour Custom drum I've had was a random 13" tom that was a place holder for my BCA tom I finally got. I thought it felt lightweight and I scratched the satin finish almost immediately on accident (my own dumb fault, but it subconsciously added to the idea of them being cheap). It just seemed like it was closer in quality to the Stage Custom rather the Absolutes.

I also called Drum Center of Portsmouth to ask about purchasing a floor tom to match my tom and they told me that the floor tom leg brackets were the same as Stage Customs and moving up the line from Tour Customs would get you better quality hardware. I guess I made my mind up that if I needed a "budget kit" it made a lot of sense to buy Stage Customs. However, I've never owned a full kit and probably shouldn't be talking about Tour Customs.

Having said all of that. It is nice to see that you are getting better bearing edges on the Tour Customs. It could very well make sense to "step up" to the TC's. But I also stand by the SC's being a great value at their price point. Probably the best at that price point.
 

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And now that I see the bearing edge difference and having heard that they stand up to Inde drums, I'm doing a full 180* turn. I need to play a full set, because if these play and tune like Inde drums at their price point, that's a fine price on NA maple shells.
 

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Nobody’s knocking the SC brother, five great sounding drums for under 600 bucks...I mean come on... they do de-tune a bit but for that price we can deal with it.
Makes you wonder how Yamaha does it.

I think Yamaha just sells the SC for a lower profit margin, but sells a boat load of them so they do well on them.

I just wanted maple with a 1200 budget for shells and I’m very happy with the TC product. I have wondered how durable the satin will be, but I am very careful with all of my drums all of the time.
 

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I own 9 pretty new stage custom birch drums and have very recently replaced all the heads, top and bottom. All of the edges looked perfectly clean-- I checked. The idea that the edges on those drums are bad is, as Joe Biden would say, malarkey. I also asked about getting the edges on the SCs redone on the Yamaha forum on Facebook and all the guys who are using them professionally said the same thing-- perfect edges on theirs.
 

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I spoke too soon. The only new Tour Custom drum I've had was a random 13" tom that was a place holder for my BCA tom I finally got. I thought it felt lightweight and I scratched the satin finish almost immediately on accident (my own dumb fault, but it subconsciously added to the idea of them being cheap). It just seemed like it was closer in quality to the Stage Custom rather the Absolutes.

I also called Drum Center of Portsmouth to ask about purchasing a floor tom to match my tom and they told me that the floor tom leg brackets were the same as Stage Customs and moving up the line from Tour Customs would get you better quality hardware. I guess I made my mind up that if I needed a "budget kit" it made a lot of sense to buy Stage Customs. However, I've never owned a full kit and probably shouldn't be talking about Tour Customs.

Having said all of that. It is nice to see that you are getting better bearing edges on the Tour Customs. It could very well make sense to "step up" to the TC's. But I also stand by the SC's being a great value at their price point. Probably the best at that price point.
I hear you, Nick. I might have gotten the same impression at first glance, but after owning a set for awhile now, I can say that they are excellent drums for the price. Like I said at the beginning of this thread, I got an incredible deal on the 5-piece locally (40% off MAP), which made them pretty much irresistible to me (I wasn't originally looking at Yamaha at all). My plan all along was to procure a well-made beater set that could be easily "touched up" if any accidents happened. These certainly fit that bill, in addition to their light weight.

And I agree: the Stage Customs are a great deal for their price, with lovely high-gloss finishes. I'd likely be happy with a set of those, as well. But the price I got my TCs for made them a no-brainer.
 

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My roommate has a 2019 SC and for the $ it's an amazing value, it's a sturdy backline at any gig.

I think the price of re skinning your SC is a big factor, I really am not a fan of the Remo UT skins, they really held the SCs that I have played back in tuning range.

What I notice the most between the SC and the TC is the snare. The SC has different lugs, it doesnt have the absolute lugs on the snare. I also noticed that the throw off on the TC is made of much nicer material. The TC also comes in a 6.5!

All in all I think they are both nice kits and I have never had a problem playing my roommates SC at a practice or a gig when I've had too, but springing for the TC is well worth it
 

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Makes you wonder how Yamaha does it.
I have heard it said by people more knowledgeable than me about music retail that drums are a “loss leader” for Yamaha as part of their domination of the world’s musical instrument retail market.
 

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