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Your Go-To Crash Thickness and Reason(s)

Franklin Nigel Stein

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The title pretty much tells the tale here. I use crashes (and cymbals in general) to personalize a drum's sound, and I always seem to be gravitating toward thin, paper thin and "DON'T YOU DARE BEND THAT CYMBAL" thin. Even my modern stuff is generally at least thin.

Am I missing anything here? Thoughts on benefits of and genres for various cymbal weights would greatly add to my somewhat limited drum knowledge (no pro's live at MY address. . . unless my wife's holding out on me).

Plus, I'm sure there are tons of beginners who would love to read about this too.



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18” = 1350 g

Thin enough to open up easily, but still projects.

My most oft-used “crash cymbal” however is a 19” paperthin Nolan. More of an effect cymbal though than an all-purpose “crash”. Sort of a trashy 19” splash.
 

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I have different cymbal setups and each one has slightly different weights.

I’m sure that’s a central issue. For quiet music it’s the really thin stuff, while I break out the (heavier) thins when I know I’ll need them.

For context, the thickest crash I have is an oversized bell vintage A Zildjian 18in “thin” that weighs in at 1250g.

Why change up the cymbals? Music type, size of room, indoor/outdoor, sound deadening features, sound system or all of the above?
 

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you mean one-hit wonders?
16" medium-thin.

I’m reading that as either a cymbal stroke on the “one” or my one cymbal I always bring to play. Either way it’s usually one of two that are my favorites.
 

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18” = 1350 g

Thin enough to open up easily, but still projects.

My most oft-used “crash cymbal” however is a 19” paperthin Nolan. More of an effect cymbal though than an all-purpose “crash”. Sort of a trashy 19” splash.

My equivalent is probably an 810g 16in crash. I’m curious about both why you use it and especially what sometimes makes you leave it home.
 

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I like the thin reissue 602 crashes the most . They are the sound that I think of when I think of my ideal crash sound.

I like the Artisan crashes from Sabian as well , I would classify them more as medium thin though .
 

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I’ve become quite a fan of thinner crashes. Generally I play a couple Paiste Traditionals (16” and 18” thins). I just don’t normally play loud enough music to need heavier crashes.
 

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I have recently replaced my K Zildjian and '80s – '90s-era A Zildjian crashes with post-2013 redesign A-series crashes. I currently have these six models up on my drumset:

18" A Med-Thin (1487 g) 2021
18" A Avedis Thin (1299 g) 2020
18" A Thin (1249 g) 2021
17" A Thin (1114 g) 2020
16" A Thin (959 g) 2016
15" A Paper-Thin (727 g) 1984

The one I wind up hitting the most often is the 17" Thin (1114 g), due to its quick attack, immediate full response, rapid decay, and location on the drumset.

My favorite-sounding one is the 18" A Thin (1249 g). Ever since I was a teenager in the late 1960s, whenever I thought "crash cymbal", it's this cymbal's exact sound that's been in my head. In 1971 I got one that sounded just like it, but a year or so later it was stolen. Out of the seven 18" Zildjian crash cymbals I've owned during the intervening 50 years, the 1249 g example I got earlier this year is the only one I've ever found that duplicates that exact sound that's in my head.

The 15" Paper-Thin was a one-in-a-million find back in 1984 (brand-new). The fastest, sweetest-sounding small crash cymbal I've ever heard.

The others are all great and sound just like I want 'em too, but if the house was on fire the only two crashes I'd grab are the 15" and the 18" Thin A (and my 22" K Heavy ride).
 

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I’ve become quite a fan of thinner crashes. Generally I play a couple Paiste Traditionals (16” and 18” thins). I just don’t normally play loud enough music to need heavier crashes.

I should probably have mentioned what I would call a thin cymbal. I pretty much never play without at least one of my three 14in crashes. They weigh 500g/560g/660g and they’re legit crashes. Plus they have sounds I haven’t found in any modern cymbals.

Maybe I’m just buying what I heard on my dad’s old records.

Great info though! I’m sure I’ll review this more than a few times.

And if any needs some advice on cymbals that flap in the breeze, feel free to message me.
 

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The 15" Paper-Thin was a one-in-a-million find back in 1984 (brand-new). The fastest, sweetest-sounding small crash cymbal I've ever heard.

Oh, I completely understand what you’re saying.

Frank N Stein
 

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Medium-thin and thin. I'm not playing arenas. I prefer Sabian AAX cymbals as they sound good at all volume levels compared to a thin AA crash I have that only develops it's sound when wacked. It appears to be a thickness of lathing issue.
 

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I’ve been with my Paiste Sound Formula 17” Full Crash as my go to crash for a lot of years now. I think it’s a medium weight in the 1200 gram area. I do like thins and medium thins as well. Some A. And K. Zildjian as well as Paiste. I don’t like heavy of power crashes.
 

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Medium to thick! I don’t enjoy breaking thinner crashes left & right.
 

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Thin crashes. 18" K Dark Thin crash, 20" A Thin crash, 17" A Fast crash etc...I like thin crashes.
Same here. The uber thin vintage cymbals I use are pretty much like a modern K dark sound but with a little bit of splash thrown in for good measure.
 


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