The tipping point for me, aside from the new, reduced price that was posted, is the cymbal weighed in at close to 100 grams per inch. For Zildjians (in my experience) that is a magic ratio for rides from any era and family. Like all of my recent cymbal purchases I didn't need it, but saw no harm in grabbing it.Dang, I was debating for a couple of weeks and didn't do it. I needed some crashes so I got those on Saturday. Both nearly new, 18" A thin crash and a 18" K dark thin crash. Completed 2 crash sets with them.