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mrslingy84

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I've been waiting for a thin 1960's 18" to pop up. This one showed up and I jumped on it. It's 1272 grams. I have not seen many come up in that range. It should be arriving in about a week but here's a link to the video they sent me: 1960's 18" Crash

Also, when people say early/late 60's etc, how can you tell? Something specific about the hammering?

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I've been waiting for a thin 1960's 18" to pop up. This one showed up and I jumped on it. It's 1272 grams. I have not seen many come up in that range. It should be arriving in about a week but here's a link to the video they sent me: 1960's 18" Crash

Also, when people say early/late 60's etc, how can you tell? Something specific about the hammering?

I would say late 60's based, as you suggested, on the hammering, which is very uniform and not real deep. The cymbal seems nice, if a bit stiff and high pitched for the weight (another characteristic of many late-60's, 70's, and 80's era A's).

18's from the early 60's and earlier tend to have a bit more heavy, random hammering and seem more flexible and lower pitched. (A tendency, not a rule.)
 

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I would say late 60's based, as you suggested, on the hammering, which is very uniform and not real deep. The cymbal seems nice, if a bit stiff and high pitched for the weight (another characteristic of many late-60's, 70's, and 80's era A's).

18's from the early 60's and earlier tend to have a bit more heavy, random hammering and seem more flexible and lower pitched. (A tendency, not a rule.)
Thanks, that makes sense. I do think my 16" is probably from the early 1960's based on that. More random hammering like you said, and quite low pitched. The seller mentioned that the cymbal sounds darker than it's coming across on the video. But that can only be by so much. They sold it to me for a pretty great deal so I thought it was worth giving a try. But yes, I am hoping it's not quite as bright in person.
 

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Yeah. Someone must have screwed up on the pricing. It was showing that it was reduced by $250. Wasn't sure what exactly was going to show up but low and behold it was a brand spanking new pristine cymbal. Now I am obsessively checking Full Compass for more pricing anomalies.
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For a Zildjian guy branching out Istanbul Agop has hit a home run the first two cymbals I’ve tried!

Just came into a 24 30th anniversary, don’t know the weight but it’s flexible and badass

Also got my first Agop in a trade a few weeks ago. A 22 SE Jazz TW 25xxg. Pics on it later.

Both are great. Anyone have any clue to what era of 30th this looks like?
 

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For a Zildjian guy branching out Istanbul Agop has hit a home run the first two cymbals I’ve tried!

Just came into a 24 30th anniversary, don’t know the weight but it’s flexible and badass

Also got my first Agop in a trade a few weeks ago. A 22 SE Jazz TW 25xxg. Pics on it later.

Both are great. Anyone have any clue to what era of 30th this looks like?
Interesting to see you're branching out a bit. I love my K Cons and many Zildjian cymbals besides, but always thought if I was going to branch out that the Istanbul Agops would appeal to me the most. I've been tempted by some that I've heard online, but have never had the chance to try them in person. How would you compare them to your K Cons?
 

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For a Zildjian guy branching out Istanbul Agop has hit a home run the first two cymbals I’ve tried!

Just came into a 24 30th anniversary, don’t know the weight but it’s flexible and badass

Also got my first Agop in a trade a few weeks ago. A 22 SE Jazz TW 25xxg. Pics on it later.

Both are great. Anyone have any clue to what era of 30th this looks like?
Looks like the second iteration of the series.
 

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Picked up some beautiful 80s K Hats this week, sound amazing.
 

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Interesting to see you're branching out a bit. I love my K Cons and many Zildjian cymbals besides, but always thought if I was going to branch out that the Istanbul Agops would appeal to me the most. I've been tempted by some that I've heard online, but have never had the chance to try them in person. How would you compare them to your K Cons?


You would like them, Agops will make your darkest zildjians sound bright. The only Zildjians I have that are as dark are my new stamps. I would say both the SE jazz and 24 30th are in the old k ballpark.

The 22 SE Jazz TW is similar to my Overhammered bounce but trashy and dry in a way it doesn’t get away from you as easily. The bell is a little lacking but not bad, it’s very integrated and low

The 24 30th is great, warm, low pitch, mellow wash, woody stick. 3 rivets already installed in a different pattern than I’m used to seeing. I think I got lucky as I’ve heard they can be unruly sometimes and either have too much wash or too much trash. The bell is great, reminds me of my 20 new stamp bell

What I like the most are these 2 Agops cover new ground that my K cons and other Zildjians don’t cover. So they add some new sounds that don’t overlap.

Overall, they are more primal and darker than my k cons. I love both, and both will serve their purpose. They sit together well. I played the 20 Bounce with SE Jazz the other week and they played great together.
 

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You would like them, Agops will make your darkest zildjians sound bright. The only Zildjians I have that are as dark are my new stamps. I would say both the SE jazz and 24 30th are in the old k ballpark.

The 22 SE Jazz TW is similar to my Overhammered bounce but trashy and dry in a way it doesn’t get away from you as easily. The bell is a little lacking but not bad, it’s very integrated and low

The 24 30th is great, warm, low pitch, mellow wash, woody stick. 3 rivets already installed in a different pattern than I’m used to seeing. I think I got lucky as I’ve heard they can be unruly sometimes and either have too much wash or too much trash. The bell is great, reminds me of my 20 new stamp bell

What I like the most are these 2 Agops cover new ground that my K cons and other Zildjians don’t cover. So they add some new sounds that don’t overlap.

Overall, they are more primal and darker than my k cons. I love both, and both will serve their purpose. They sit together well. I played the 20 Bounce with SE Jazz the other week and they played great together.
Thanks for the insights, I'm more tempted than ever! Glad to hear they offer something different and darker than the K Cons; sounds to me like they'd be even better in a jazz context, but maybe not as versatile overall.

Anyhow, I'll live vicariously through you for a while, and keep my eyes and ears peeled for deals on Agops I can try out in person.
 

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Couldn't resist these.
Don't know how much actual use I have for 12"s but the demo was sounding so sweet that I just had to get them.

 

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You would like them, Agops will make your darkest zildjians sound bright. The only Zildjians I have that are as dark are my new stamps. I would say both the SE jazz and 24 30th are in the old k ballpark.

The 22 SE Jazz TW is similar to my Overhammered bounce but trashy and dry in a way it doesn’t get away from you as easily. The bell is a little lacking but not bad, it’s very integrated and low

The 24 30th is great, warm, low pitch, mellow wash, woody stick. 3 rivets already installed in a different pattern than I’m used to seeing. I think I got lucky as I’ve heard they can be unruly sometimes and either have too much wash or too much trash. The bell is great, reminds me of my 20 new stamp bell

What I like the most are these 2 Agops cover new ground that my K cons and other Zildjians don’t cover. So they add some new sounds that don’t overlap.

Overall, they are more primal and darker than my k cons. I love both, and both will serve their purpose. They sit together well. I played the 20 Bounce with SE Jazz the other week and they played great together.
I have a pair of Agop Traditional hats and they were magic, straight out of the box...I'm starting to think a 30th anniversary is in my future.
 


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