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Zak Starkey on Who Tour - Pads for Cymbals

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I just saw this - Zak using pads instead of cymbals. It appears the drums are real - but not sure - the DW's look a bit different. I'm sure it's to bring volume levels down for especially Pete and Roger. The nature of the instrumentation might also have something to do with it. Interesting.
 

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I just saw this - Zak using pads instead of cymbals. It appears the drums are real - but not sure - the DW's look a bit different. I'm sure it's to bring volume levels down for especially Pete and Roger. The nature of the instrumentation might also have something to do with it. Interesting.


... and Keanu Reeves on keys.
 

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Long Live Electronically-Processed Rock!

“The place is really jumping to the high watt amps
'Til a twenty inch cymbal fell and cut the lamps
In the blackout they danced right into the aisle
And as the doors fly open even the promoter smiles
Someone takes his pants off and the rafters knock
Rock is dead they say
Long live rock, long live rock, long live rock, long live rock!”
 

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Long Live Electronically-Processed Rock!

“The place is really jumping to the high watt amps
'Til a twenty inch cymbal fell and cut the lamps
In the blackout they danced right into the aisle
And as the doors fly open even the promoter smiles
Someone takes his pants off and the rafters knock
Rock is dead they say
Long live rock, long live rock, long live rock, long live rock!”
What is "electronically processed"?

It almost sounds like you're suggesting it's dubbed over or something, they're still playing their "electronic" instruments.
 

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Long Live Electronically-Processed Rock!

“The place is really jumping to the high watt amps
'Til a twenty inch cymbal fell and cut the lamps
In the blackout they danced right into the aisle
And as the doors fly open even the promoter smiles
Someone takes his pants off and the rafters knock
Rock is dead they say
Long live rock, long live rock, long live rock, long live rock!”
That's not electronically-processed, it's electronically-generated. (Although all of their sound is electronically-processed as well, like most rock bands' concert sound has been for the past half-century or so.)
 

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I'm sorry, but that is atrocious. That absolutely sucks. I am a huge fan of The Who and have seen them many times ...Those edrums and cymbals simply don't move any air and sound like a video game. I know that Pete's ears are horrible, but that simply doesn't work. Whatever this has turned into, it simply is no longer Rock-n-Roll. Time for retirement. Sorry...
 

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Not a fan. IMHO ekits sound flat live.

Pat Mastelloto did an album and tour with crimson on electronic drums.
I didn't think they quite worked and would absolutely love to hear the album "The Construkction of Light" with a real kit. Could have been a classic. I suspect Pat used them for different reasons entirely to Zak with The Who.

Edit : Just found out that Pat re-recorded a real kit for that album 19 year later and it was remixed, the now aptly titled "The ReconstruKction of Light". Must check that out.
 

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Electronically processed drums are to rock drumming what the McRib is to the barbecue sandwich.
Bad analogy as the McRib is still edible. That drek that Zak is playing is lifeless, limp, and devoid of any air moving out of those edrums and cymbals disguised as a real acoustic drum kit. Whenever I see a club band with the drummer playing edrums, I notice that no one is dancing, so one is feeling the music and it feels like memorex, not a live performance. It's a fail.
 

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Alex VH utilized electronic drums disguised as real toms on several VH tours back in the 80s I believe.
I don’t have an opinion on any of this.
Just seemed relevant to the discussion.

… well, I don’t like the sounds of Pete and Roger.
 

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Not a fan. IMHO ekits sound flat live.

Pat Mastelloto did an album and tour with crimson on electronic drums.
I didn't think they quite worked and would absolutely love to hear the album "The Construkction of Light" with a real kit. Could have been a classic. I suspect Pat used them for different reasons entirely to Zak with The Who.

Edit : Just found out that Pat re-recorded a real kit for that album 19 year later and it was remixed, the now aptly titled "The ReconstruKction of Light". Must check that out.
Pat did a great job with the rerecording. It's not my favorite disc of theirs but it's a whole new album and definitely worth checking out.
 

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V drums and cymbals for The Who? Sorry, that’s a hard nope. I’m no longer one to say older bands should hang it up but …
Agree about the V drums. Frankly, half the point of that band is that great raw drum sound. I played V drums for awhile at a church, and eventually, they came around to using real drums. Made all the difference. I will never ever play another gig using electric drums. (I don’t have to).


We saw them 5 or 6 years ago and it was a great show with real drums/cymbals.
 

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I used to think The Who were very exciting when I got into them in 1974.
I saw them perform with Moon in 1976.

I was gutted when he died, it really depressed me
I met Entwhistle briefly at NAMM once, shook his hand.

Haven't been excited about them for many decades now however.
I stopped caring and listening long ago.
So how long has Roger been playing guitar with them?
 


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