Zildjian K Constantinople Players Here?

Neal Pert

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This thread is for those of us who play and love K Cons. What have you got?

Mine:

22" Medium Ride (2017) 2726g
22" Overhammered Bounce Ride (2019) 2422g
19" Crash/Ride (2016) 1568g
16" Crash (2016) 1050g
14" Hi Hats (2015) 906g/1222g

Hoping to add an 18 or 19" crash and a 20" MTL, but both can wait.
 

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20" Medium
21" Big Band
19" Crash/Ride
 
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Just recently got around to acquiring a couple. The price tag can be a bit high but if you wait and search, deals to come up. I'm seriously thinking about picking up a crash to go along with these. The proto crashes from the video in R&D thread sound awesome.

20 High Bell Thin Ride ~1750 grams
22 SLP Multi Purpose ~2500 grams
 

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Constantinoples that I've had:
20" (from the 90's before all the different labels)
22" light
22" medium

These were all really nice ones but I ended up selling them onwards, since I was using my Keropes more and one of my former students kept bugging me to sell them to him. :laughing6:

Constantinoples I still have:
22" Renaissance, just amazing, nasty and beautiful at the same time.
22" Flat, this thing is not for all occasions, but when you need a quiet and pretty with bit or shimmer, this one delivers. Had been a lifesaver on some dinner gigs.
 

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I love my K Constantinoples.

- 20" Medium thin low ride

- 13" Hi hats (Discontinued long ago.)

- 14" Hi hats

- 18" Crash (First generation)

- 18" Crash (Current generation)

- 16" Crash (First generation)

- 16" Crash (Current generation)

- 15" Crash (Also long discontinued.)


On my wish list is...

- 22" Medium thin low ride

- 19" Crash/Ride (I had one and traded it for one of my 18" crashes.)

- 17" Crash
 

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22" Prototype Big Band
14" thinnish hats
20" light ride, which is more of a crash. The envy of every drummer who hears it.
 

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My 20" mtl is my main crash on my small kit. Absolutely beautiful cymbal
 

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I wasn’t really paying attention to the K Cons until I heard a particular one demoed in a FS thread here, and it sounded just perfect. By the time I decided to buy, the next day, it was already gone. The funny thing is it was one if the ones with the mechanical looking spiral pattern in the hammering, which I had sneered at those before because they looked machine made instead of “real” random hammering. But this one sounded so good! Now I’m on the hunt.
 

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I'm a former K Con guy. I gigged a 22" MTL for 5+ years. The bell was nice, the edges were great for crashes, but the timbre of mine just wasn't my favorite. Sold it.

The next up was a 22" K Con Bounce. It had all of that craziness many desire, but it was just too much. It dominated the sound. Sold it.

Finally, I finally scored a 22" K Con Light from 1999--what I thought was my dream cymbal as I love Willie Jones III's playing and sound. The wash was just way too low. I tried for a while to get used to it, but it just wasn't right. Sold it.
 

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Had:
14" Hi Hats. Never got on with them, too trashy and undefined
20" Medium. Lovely cymbal, but, for lack of a better word, too "pretty". Got bored with it after a while and sold it.
22" Bounce. Now that was a great cymbal but, like Tracktuary said, too much of a good thing.

Still have:
20" Medium Thin Low. Combines the complex character of the Bounce with the prettyness of the Medium. Almost perfect.

"Almost" because the real winners for me are Paiste Masters. I have a 22" Dark Ride and two 20" Mellow Rides. Heaven.
 

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I love these K cons:
12" Splash...rare and not a prototype
13" Hihats
2 x 16" Crash, sometimes used as hihats
18" Crash
19" Crash/Ride
20" Flat ride
20" Renaissance
22" Thin Overhammered
17" Bought as crash, but turned out to be 1/2 of an orchestral pair, sounded awful so I holed it out to make an Ozone crash, but it sounds like hell.
Another that I cannot remember right now.
 

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I have just one, the 19” Crash/Ride. I love it then hate it but there’s something about it that makes me keep playing it.
 

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In the past I had a 22" MTL ride and a 22" Bounce ride, but I sold both of them. It's not that I didn't like them, I loved them actually, I just felt bad playing rock gigs with these super nice complex cymbals. I'm just playing redesigned A's now, which do the trick for me.
 

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Oh yes...
20" MTL Ride and an 18" crash. Fantastic for jazz with my 16" K Custom Dry hats and maybe the 16" K Dark Crash.
For louder and maybe more aggressive music, I like to mix them in with my 18" K Custom Dry crash and the 16" K EFX.
I'll use the 20" K Con primarily as a crash and an occasional left side ride when I play the 21" K custom hybrid ride. Pitches and timbres work really well together for a variety of stuff while keeping to my sound.
 

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20 and 22 MTLs here. Nice examples that really work well as a set.

Had a 20 Medium (first run) for years. Around 2200g. It was my first real Turkish-inspired cymbal of any kind. It was a nice one but it started to feel kinda stiff and a little too high-pitched for me at some point compared to what I wanted out of that kind of cymbal, so I moved it on.

The MTLs are really lovely cymbals, though. Refined but can be aggressive. A lot of classic '50s-'60s jazz recordings feature cymbal sounds (including K sounds) that, although dark, are a little brighter and more lively on top than we might think. The Cons seem to capture that vibe well. Kerope, by contrast, seems better at the softer, more subdued K vibe.
 

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13 Hats
14 Hats
15 Hats SLP
16 Crash
17 Crash
17 Paper Thin Crash SLP
18 Crash
18 Paper Thin Crash SLP
19 Crash/Ride
19 Swish SLP
20 Bounce
20 Medium
22 Medium
22 Medium Thin Low

Yeah, I like them. IMO they're not a great choice if you want/need a lot of volume or if you are a heavy hitter. I found they have a lot of tones/textures within them, compared to other cymbals. Playing techniques and styles really help bring those out. So they are quite versatile.

Within the K family, I think Cons are very well-balanced cymbals for my taste. Ks are on the plain side, Keropes have less high end and are quieter, Custom Darks are a bit trashy and aggressive compared to the Ks. All members of the K family have contexts/applications where they shine but the Cons hit the sweet spot for me in tonality and complexity/darkness and so they are my default. It's great that we have so many good choices.
 
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