24” Paiste/Trixon Stambul

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I’ve had this cymbal a long time, bought it when a music store went out of business. 24 inches and 2345 grams in weight. It is one of my favorite cymbals I have ever owned. Thin, wobbly, beautiful dark spread with nice stick definition and all topped off by an amazing bell. I’ve never seen another one of these in person or online anywhere. Wonder if anyone could help me date it or tell me anything about it? What was the relationship to Trixon that allowed them to put their own stamp on it?
 

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It's from the 1950s. probably post 1952/3 off the top of my head. I have seen others. Trixon wasn't the only German drum company that sold Paistes. Sonor did as well. There are Stambuls out there with the Sonor logo on them.

German drum companies carried Paistes in their catalogs starting in the early 50s and in the case of Trixon and Sonor put their logos on the cymbal. Deri also carried Paiste but I haven't spotted a Stambul with the Deri logo on it.

Will post some pics in a few. Off to the rest room.
 
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Some Paiste Stambuls (and a Zilko) with German drum company logos on them
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You have the "big bell" version and I assume small mounting hole?
Your stamp looks like it's from the mid 1950's, but could be from the early 50's as well.

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In 1957 they started to put the location below the stamp after the Swiss factory opened, but we don't know how consistently this was done and for how long.
It's safe to say your cymbal is pre 1957.

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Identify Your Paistes - Cymbal

www.cymbal.wiki www.cymbal.wiki
 
Yes, big bell and small mounting hole, have to use an older stand with it. After reading through the Wiki yeah, seems like early-mid 50s. Older than I thought! I have about 50 cymbals and this is easily in the top 5. I have some other older Paiste Stanoples which are great also but this one just has something special I’ve not heard in many other cymbals. Thanks for the info! I need to get a decent sound file and post that soon.
 
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Yes, big bell and small mounting hole, have to use an older stand with it. After reading through the Wiki yeah, seems like early-mid 50s. Older than I thought! I have about 50 cymbals and this is easily in the top 5. I have some other older Paiste Stanoples which are great also but this one just has something special I’ve not heard in many other cymbals. Thanks for the info! I need to get a decent sound file and post that soon.
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Nice!
Nickel silver Stambuls were Paiste's top of the line series until 1957 and the intro of the B20 Super formula 602.

Stanoples are just relabeled nickel silver Dixies that Paiste made for Ludwig.

Stambul's are special because they were the last cymbals that Michail Paiste designed and produced in the German factory, if you look at the stamp below, in the "P" of the Paiste signature there is a little "M", that is for "Michail".

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The Made in Germany is an outlier on German Stambuls and was probably something they did short term after the opening of the Swiss factory or at the request of the importing entity. The vast majority (and I mean very vast) of them DO NOT have Made in Germany on them.

A 24" Stambul is unlikely to be from the very early 50s. The first few years of the 50s the largest size offered was 20" unless the customer special ordered a bigger size. Without having all my catalogs in front of me, 1954 or thereabouts is when they started making the bigger sizes.
 
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The Made in Germany is an outlier on German Stambuls and was probably something they did short term after the opening of the Swiss factory or at the request of the importing entity. The vast majority (and I mean very vast) of them DO NOT have Made in Germany on them.

A 24" Stambul is unlikely to be from the very early 50s. The first few years of the 50s the largest size offered was 20" unless the customer special ordered a bigger size. Without having all my catalogs in front of me, 1954 or thereabouts is when they started making the bigger sizes.
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It looks looks the '52/'53 catalog is the 1st time they listed a 60cm cymbal:


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