OBP Club date with a Pearl style mount

[ConvertedLudwigPlayer]

I just picked up a really nice 1965 (?) Oyster Black Pearl Ludwig Club date kit. The sizes are 20, 12, 14.

I also got a Canister Throne that has been rewrapped in Vintage OBP. This is the 2nd Canister throne I have gotten in about a month. The other is a Slingerland in white. And, these are the only two Canister Thrones I have ever seen in person. The drums Gods have been smiling on me . I will probably sell the Slingerland at some point as I really don't need it.

Sometime within the last 10 years or so the prior owner put a Pearl Style tom mount on the bass. The mount is not marked as Pearl and the wing screws don't look like the ones that Pearl uses. He used a RIMS for the 12" tom thankfully, so no extra holes there.

The prior owner really took care of this kit as far as detailing goes, and he thought he would keep it forever and was more concerned about functionality for him than the value with the modifications. He also repainted the interiors. He had Ludwig make him a 10" tom straight ply shell in vintage OBP as he liked to play 2 up.

I plan to put a Ludwig rail mount on it and remove the Pearl style mount. I am thinking of a couple of options for dealign with the holes:
1. Plug the holes and source some really nice OBP wrap to go over the holes. Not sure how I would trim the wrap to fit nicely though.
2. Buy a Pearl cover plate and call it a day, asuming it will match up with the screw holes.
3. Buy some sort of large 1" metal bolt to go over the hole or plastic plug and paint it black to make it less noticeable.

Any other ideas on what I could do to make it look closer to what it originally did?


Has anyone sent off a bass to be "re-virginized". Is anyone familiar with the cost?

I spoke with Jack Lawton years ago about doing something similar to my 1969 OBP kit that has a Slingerland mount, but he was concerned that the drum may have faded under the mount. I don't suspect there will be fading issues as the wrap on this is even nicer than the one my 1969 kit.

The bass has the telescoping cymbal mount. Does anyone know how long that cymbal arm would have been? Or where to find one? Is it worth finiding one from a functionality perspective? Are they really useable? I suspose I could use a metal rod and an old 60's cymbal arm that would slide over it. Was the original a 2 piece set up like I just described or were they just a one piece arm?

The seller included the original straight floor tom legs and clip mounts, although newer leg mounts and legs are on the drum currently. I will probably swap them out, although he said there may be thought there might be some extra holes under the leg mounts. He was thinking the original mounts had a different spacing than newer mounts. But, again, he did these mods around 10 years ago, and he wasn't sure.

Thank you!

 

[ConvertedLudwigPlayer]

Set up pictures without the 10" tom:

 

[JazzDrumGuy]

Killer set! If the Pearl plate works, I'd cover it up. Maybe get a trophy person to make a personalized plaque the size of the Pearl plate.

Or, you can send the bass out to Jack L. or Precision and get it "fixed" the right way and/or have them add the Ludwig mount (rail?), or you can add it yourself.

What does it look like under the mount?

 

[bobby...]

i made my own to cover a , slingerland tom mount that was installed on my bass drum
it's black laminate .... you could do the same .... all you would need is a small piece of the same wrap

 

[JazzDrumGuy]

You can also get a Strat guitar rear spring cover, and trim it to size (if it's big enough to begin with).....all over eBay for dirt cheap....

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[ConvertedLudwigPlayer]

Killer set! If the Pearl plate works, I'd cover it up. Maybe get a trophy person to make a personalized plaque the size of the Pearl plate.

Or, you can send the bass out to Jack L. or Precision and get it "fixed" the right way and/or have them add the Ludwig mount (rail?), or you can add it yourself.

What does it look like under the mount?

I am hoping to remove the mount this weekend. Iassume there will be some sort of indention as those tom arms and toms are heavy.

 

[ConvertedLudwigPlayer]

i made my own to cover a , slingerland tom mount that was installed on my bass drum
it's black laminate .... you could do the same .... all you would need is a small piece of the same wrap

Thanks for posting.

I am not sure of the likelihood of finding a piece of the wrap that is in good shape. Obviously, if I am just covering the holes that may not be as noticeable as using a full 3x5" piece of wrap for example.

Your black laminate would belend much easier than mine, I would think.

 

[ConvertedLudwigPlayer]

You can also get a Strat guitar rear spring cover, and trim it to size (if it's big enough to begin with).....all over eBay for dirt cheap....

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Interesting idea. Thanks.

 

[Tigerdrummer]

You can also get a Strat guitar rear spring cover, and trim it to size (if it's big enough to begin with).....all over eBay for dirt cheap....

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Interesting idea. Thanks.

Someon here was adverstising wrap cheap and they can do pickguards and the like so there may be way to buy a small piece if you can find a match. I just cant recall who but you could google

 

[ConvertedLudwigPlayer]

You can also get a Strat guitar rear spring cover, and trim it to size (if it's big enough to begin with).....all over eBay for dirt cheap....

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Interesting idea. Thanks.

Someon here was adverstising wrap cheap and they can do pickguards and the like so there may be way to buy a small piece if you can find a match. I just cant recall who but you could google



I will take a look. Thanks!

 

[wflkurt]

Do you have any pics of the canister throne?

 

[ConvertedLudwigPlayer]

Here are the Slingerland and the rewrapped Ludwig canister thrones. The picture with the lid open is the Ludwig.

 

[ConvertedLudwigPlayer]

Do you have any pics of the canister throne?

Please see the post above.

 

[wflkurt]

Thanks! I love canister thrones. That oyster black does not look too bad. I have an original wrap 69 oyster black one myself.

 

[ConvertedLudwigPlayer]

Thanks! I love canister thrones. That oyster black does not look too bad. I have an original wrap 69 oyster black one myself.

Thanks Kurt. I would love to have an original OBP throne like yours.

The Vintage OBP wrap definitely looks different than the original when you see the wraps next to each other. There is a lot more blue in the new version. It looks nice, but different than the original.

I would love to see pics of your throne.

I was surprised the Ludwig is so much shorter then the Slingerland.

 

[wflkurt]

Bum wrap makes a pretty decent version. Here is my throne with a few others. I have had many over the years and some I wish I had back. I had a really nice WMP that I kick myself for letting go years ago. Currently I have four.

1969 Oyster Black
1970 Mod Orange
2004 Mod Orange reissue
2012 champagne sparkle(the last one Ludwig ever made).

 

[JDA]

I'd be tempted to leave the Pearl mounts...
and just throw a towel over them on-stage ; )
throw a t-shirt..

they (the Pearl mounts) are freaking horrorific
on the other hand they are Clubdates so we're not talking gold-plated-Lamborghini Aventador here..
Going for Sound not looks. and the orig owner kept em well.

How about put the Pearl Plate on and cover it with obp

 

[Tornado]

Aluminum roof flashing from my garage, pair of tin ships, and a can of black enamel spray paint. I have the plastic gasket from the tom mount under the aluminum. Hideous Pearl tom mount gone.

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[ConvertedLudwigPlayer]

Bum wrap makes a pretty decent version. Here is my throne with a few others. I have had many over the years and some I wish I had back. I had a really nice WMP that I kick myself for letting go years ago. Currently I have four.

1969 Oyster Black
1970 Mod Orange
2004 Mod Orange reissue
2012 champagne sparkle(the last one Ludwig ever made).

Hubba Hubba. Those look fantastic!

 

[ConvertedLudwigPlayer]

I'd be tempted to leave the Pearl mounts...
and just throw a towel over them on-stage ; )
throw a t-shirt..

they (the Pearl mounts) are freaking horrorific
on the other hand they are Clubdates so we're not talking gold-plated-Lamborghini Aventador here..
Going for Sound not looks. and the orig owner kept em well.

How about put the Pearl Plate on and cover it with obp

Good suggestion on covering the Pearl Plate. I suppose if I can find some wrap, I will know what my options really could be.