Totally fake AI created band VELEVET SUNDOWN has 400,000 hits on SPOTIFY... HUH?

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rkingston said:
I had the same thought:
550,000 million? What does that even mean?
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Ha! Right!
It's probably an AI article on an AI band. 550,000 million is 550 billion or just about 67 times the population of the planet (unless they're counting bots too) - guess we can't let AI do all the thinking just yet :blink:
 
Hop said:
Ha! Right!
It's probably an AI article on an AI band. 550,000 million is 550 billion or just about 67 times the population of the planet (unless they're counting bots too) - guess we can't let AI do all the thinking just yet :blink:
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And other AI articles will probably repeat the “mistake” and amplify this ridiculousness.

Turns out Skynet is stupid. :D
 
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green glass drum said:
So.....those guys did not play on the record?
so kinda like those 60's Pop Bands?
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Nope, because those 60's artists still employed fantastic talented songwriters and human studio musicians. It created income and employment for humans.....unlike Spotify's AI music, which aims to remove humans from its payment system. Thus making more money for a handful of owners and executives.
 
Not specific to you Chris - and for the record, I’m not a fan of this “music” - but this reasoning always gets me ruffled.

100,000s of extremely talented and hard working mathematicians and computer scientists have spent the last 60+ years figuring out how to make possible what this new technology is capable of. I dabbled about 20 years ago and what we are seeing now was unconceivable.

Is this good for music and art? Probably not, but I’m hoping it’s just another step in evolution (a big step…) and on the other side this becomes just another tool artists use to express their vision. But the idea that some fatback executive with a cigar just pushed a button and made this happen is silly.


Whitten said:
Nope, because those 60's artists still employed fantastic talented songwriters and human studio musicians. It created income and employment for humans.....unlike Spotify's AI music, which aims to remove humans from its payment system. Thus making more money for a handful of owners and executives.
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Sinclair said:
Sounds extremely ordinary. Nice to know our future will be made up of the lowest common denominators possible. Actually... that's my new band. LCD...Lowest Common Denominator. I'm gonna be rich!!
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First album called "OCD"? Here's an album cover for you, no charge.
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Haven't listened to the song on Spotify but watched the Rick Beato video. The parts of the song I heard sounded terrible. Pretty lifeless in all departments. Guitars were bland, drums were boxy, "vocals" were weak, lyrics were pandering. Generally speaking, I don't know why anyone would actually like the song and why it would garner such attention. Part of me thinks that if we can create AI songs, why not create AI bots to click on the song and create revenue? I would imagine it is just as easy to do.
 
owr said:
Not specific to you Chris - and for the record, I’m not a fan of this “music” - but this reasoning always gets me ruffled.

100,000s of extremely talented and hard working mathematicians and computer scientists have spent the last 60+ years figuring out how to make possible what this new technology is capable of. I dabbled about 20 years ago and what we are seeing now was unconceivable.

Is this good for music and art? Probably not, but I’m hoping it’s just another step in evolution (a big step…) and on the other side this becomes just another tool artists use to express their vision.
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That's what they keep saying, it doesn't work that way. People don't start out with vision, it comes through doing the work. Somebody on Bluesky shared some tech PR about the writing of the future, that will be prompting AI, with the human writer adding their own "unique observations" and "quirky insights".... that they have just lying around the house.

Nobody starts out with vision-- or with a vision that's of any value. That stuff happens through doing the writing-- whatever the work is. Everything is process-- applying thought, at great length, to work out a creative problem via the tools of that medium.

Sinclair said:
Sounds extremely ordinary. Nice to know our future will be made up of the lowest common denominators possible. Actually... that's my new band. LCD...Lowest Common Denominator. I'm gonna be rich!!
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Too late, there's already LCD Sound System:

 
Yes you have to carefully read the results of AI searches. From this response, young people will think that the term Bucket List came into use around 2007. From google AI ...... The term "bucket list" originated from the phrase "kick the bucket," an idiom for dying, and was popularized by the 2007 film "The Bucket List". Screenwriter Justin Zackham is credited with coining the phrase "Justin's bucket list" based on his own list of things to do before he died. The film brought the term into common usage. "

With the only date shown as 2007 and someone being credited from coining the phrase of Justin's bucket list, the youth of today will think he actually coined the phrase Bucket List
 
I wasn’t trying to suggest that - there’s always process, and one never lands on final results without doing the work. But the tools (and process) do evolve.

toddbishop said:
Nobody starts out with vision-- or with a vision that's of any value. That stuff happens through doing the writing-- whatever the work is. Everything is process-- applying thought, at great length, to work out a creative problem via the tools of that
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I definitely knew the whole thing, but Velvet Sundown was created by an alleged fake AI, I didn't analyze but to my point, they have 400.000 hits on Spotify, Strange?

Any matter on what they looked like what they sounded like, I found that movies has fictional bands.

But this Alleged AI fake band? Never heard of it. They barely have any social media followers, with just 322 on Instagram and 47 followers on X.

There's No live performances or interviews of the band anywhere to be found, and none of the four members have any kind of internet presence.

There are AI Generated photos of the band and their music didn't featured writers, producers or musicians listed.

I guess Spotify is face Boycotts from both artists and subscribers over its move into AI.

Great Social Media Platform which I don't have it anymore, An Alleged Fake AI Band.
 
Tommy D said:
Haven't listened to the song on Spotify but watched the Rick Beato video. The parts of the song I heard sounded terrible. Pretty lifeless in all departments. Guitars were bland, drums were boxy, "vocals" were weak, lyrics were pandering. Generally speaking, I don't know why anyone would actually like the song and why it would garner such attention. Part of me thinks that if we can create AI songs, why not create AI bots to click on the song and create revenue? I would imagine it is just as easy to do.
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This exactly...

It has taken great COMPUTER ENERGY to create AI and I guess there might be some good in it (maybe), but it also took great COMPUTER ENERGY to create Bitcoin, and that is just a pump-and-dump scam.

I believe the Velvet Sundown thing is a scam by the powers-that-be at Spotify to control revenue and direct playlists.

No way has there been 500,000 ACTUAL ACTIVE LISTENERS selecting/choosing to hear this white bread bland sludge from Velvet Sundown, a band no one has heard of before.
 
owr said:
But the idea that some fatback executive with a cigar just pushed a button and made this happen is silly.
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There are good ways and bad ways to use technology. There is no doubt that robotics have replaced a lot of workers (supermarkets, public transport etc) and some science commentators have suggested a universal wage, where everyone in society is paid something whether they work or not is required now that many jobs are obsolete. It hasn't happened and there is an extremely wide gap between the haves and have nots - MUCH wider than in the 50's, 60'sand 70's.
AI can help diagnose cancers, but it's also being used lethally on the battle fields of Ukraine and in Spotify's case, being used to create cheap music they can place on their most popular playlists avoiding paying song writers and musicians.
If it isn't called out it leads to tragic results for the arts.
 
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