astrickland
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Hi all, is this a Trans Stamp? Thanks in advance!
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Trans Stamp
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zenstat
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We can rule out T1, T2, T4. The downgraded image (thanks DFO) means I can't say for sure about a T3 but I doubt it. You also need to consider A Zildjian Canada:
Canada
Are there any characters present where the MADE IN U S A or MADE IN CANADA might be? If nothing, consider the Canadian no country of origin. If there is something written there than a decent photo might let us check the alignments.
If it is Canadian (no country or proud Canadian) a good image of the top and bottom of the cymbal will be informative because Canadian made cymbals have certain hammering and lathing features. I've had a few because as part of the Commonwealth (Australia too) we have a reasonable number in circulation. Enough to come to my attention.
Canada
Are there any characters present where the MADE IN U S A or MADE IN CANADA might be? If nothing, consider the Canadian no country of origin. If there is something written there than a decent photo might let us check the alignments.
If it is Canadian (no country or proud Canadian) a good image of the top and bottom of the cymbal will be informative because Canadian made cymbals have certain hammering and lathing features. I've had a few because as part of the Commonwealth (Australia too) we have a reasonable number in circulation. Enough to come to my attention.
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Tama CW
DFO Star
I would say that's a type 3 trans stamp. While the outer 4 "corners" of the stamp are not really bold like most are,
3 of the 4 corners are still semi-bold (in blue) I think I can faintly make out the "D" in "MADE" just under the "S" in "TURKISH."
And I think I also see a faint "C" under the "N" in "IN." The fact that the 2 outside portions of the script are bolder than all
the rest of it....seems fairly conclusive to me. It's not too often we have to consider "buying" a cymbal based only on the stamp photo.
In the Canadian version with country of origin, the word "MADE" starts out 1-2 characters to the left than in the
trans stamp versions. And the "D" in MADE looks to be under the "K" in "TURKISH.
A 7/16" bell hole, or 1.75" bell hole chuck would also verify trans stamp vs. Canadian A. So would the rev bow hammering
and the bell lathing.
3 of the 4 corners are still semi-bold (in blue) I think I can faintly make out the "D" in "MADE" just under the "S" in "TURKISH."
And I think I also see a faint "C" under the "N" in "IN." The fact that the 2 outside portions of the script are bolder than all
the rest of it....seems fairly conclusive to me. It's not too often we have to consider "buying" a cymbal based only on the stamp photo.
In the Canadian version with country of origin, the word "MADE" starts out 1-2 characters to the left than in the
trans stamp versions. And the "D" in MADE looks to be under the "K" in "TURKISH.
A 7/16" bell hole, or 1.75" bell hole chuck would also verify trans stamp vs. Canadian A. So would the rev bow hammering
and the bell lathing.
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zenstat
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Although I've recently discovered that a 1.75" bell chuck was in use on Canadian made cymbals when I was starting to check chuck sizes against my collection. It also seems to have made an appearance on some cymbals with MADE IN U.S.A. stamps from the late 1970s early 1980s.
As I said to somebody in an email today
So yes, the usual request for photos of lathing and hammering apply as well.
astrickland
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Tama CW
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Based on a 4" bell, that's probably a 15" or a 16"....I'd guess 16". Bell hole looks to be the smaller 7/16".
Typical hi hat type wear on the underside. I'll stick with trans stamp type 3.
Typical hi hat type wear on the underside. I'll stick with trans stamp type 3.
astrickland
Well-Known Member
Thanks again mate
Just by seeing the bell, it pretty much has to be Trans, most likely Trans3. It's the classic 2 inch chuck that gives it away.
