Update!! I bought a new kit! (Classic Maple's) Set up pics!

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Wow, Cool!
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You can download the outfitter here and see all the different options. The new one doesn't seem to have list price though.

Ludwig Drums :: Classic Maple

A Custom Solution for the Discerning Player
www.ludwig-drums.com www.ludwig-drums.com
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The idea is you take it to your dealer, you'd have to call places like Sweetwater probably to get the best price, but still might be cheaper to buy a set and then buy the add on's. If you go the custom route there's some good dealers that I'm sure we can all list. My set came from store in San Antonio Texas that has morphed into Jeff Ryder's which he does a lot of online business now (He's got some good prices on the Sonor AQ's right now on reverb
 
Save up for what you really want is my advice.

Ballpark $3920 MAP price for Classic Maple 10/12/13/14/16/22 in a wrap according to the Outfitter spreadsheet I've seen. Bracket and bearing edges choices will affect the final cost - as will any lacquer or exotic finish (around 10% more).

Still, shop around - discounts on MAP pricing seem highly variable between shops, but I've seen surprisingly aggressive discounts lately.
 
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zenghost said:
Save up for what you really want is my advice.

Ballpark $3920 MAP price for Classic Maple 10/12/13/14/16/22 in a wrap according to the Outfitter spreadsheet I've seen. Bracket and bearing edges choices will affect the final cost - as will any lacquer or exotic finish (around 10% more).

Still, shop around - discounts on MAP pricing seem highly variable between shops, but I've seen surprisingly aggressive discounts lately.
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Awesome! Thank you for that
 
blueshadow said:
You can download the outfitter here and see all the different options. The new one doesn't seem to have list price though.

Ludwig Drums :: Classic Maple

A Custom Solution for the Discerning Player
www.ludwig-drums.com www.ludwig-drums.com
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The idea is you take it to your dealer, you'd have to call places like Sweetwater probably to get the best price, but still might be cheaper to buy a set and then buy the add on's. If you go the custom route there's some good dealers that I'm sure we can all list. My set came from store in San Antonio Texas that has morphed into Jeff Ryder's which he does a lot of online business now (He's got some good prices on the Sonor AQ's right now on reverb
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Yes, I'm pretty sure it will be less buying the set from Sweetwater and then adding. Based on what I've calculated, I'd save roughly around $700 doing it that way.
 
Here is an update of where I stand on the new kit that I want. First I'd like to thank everyone that has provided info. for my future kit. After listening to probably hundreds of soundfiles and reading about experiences, I've decided to skip on the Classic Maple's. As much as I thought I would want to own them, I believe their are other drums out there that sound as good or better at least to me. (I'm sure some will hate hearing that) The sound that I enjoy is my #1 priority and the next priority is quality of the kit. For the money, I believe I can get something else that will work as a big step up of what I currently play without buying Classic Maple's. I really don't want to spend so much on something just because it's a Classic Maple. Second (very important fact) is being somewhere price wise that will keep my wife happy as well. I need to be fair!
So I've firmly set the budget at $2500 and I believe that in the next couple of weeks I'll be able to have that extra money in hand in order to make the purchase. So now it's time to start deciding what I'll finally buy in the end. Note, I've seen and researched pretty much all the models from different brands. The ones I'm considering & have prioritized will keep me at or below $2500 with all the pieces I want:

-The best drums I've heard hands down are Odery Eyedentity drums. These drums are handmade in Brazil. I had my eye on these a couple years ago and now I'm looking at them again. They've been spoken about here on DFO before. They have several wood choices for the shells. I like the Bubinga/Sapele or the Birch/Tigerwood. For those who haven't seen them, these drums should be worth 5 times what they cost. Everything is privilege level from the wood they use, the shells and to the hardware and finish. Fortunately, I just found out yesterday that the biggest USA dealer for them is 1 hour away from my house. The only thing that scares me about these is that if they go away, how would I get something fixed? Resale is not an issue for me! I'll post a couple of videos at the end of the two Odery's that I'm considering!

-Pearl Session Studio Select. You really can't beat them for the price and the sound is astonishing. With these, I'd be able to add both an 8" & 13" tom and stay below budget and of course Pearl's lifetime warranty & customer service is a plus.

-Pearl Masters Maple Complete. More money but Excellent sound & finish as well. Definitely towards pro level on drums.

-Gretsch Renown Maple. I looked into Gretsch because of someones recommendation here and they sound awesome, have great features and the finish seems top notch. They sound better to me than the Ludwig's and they are made in Taiwan but to the same standards as their USA made kits.

I've discarded the Sonor AQ2 & Ludwig Neusonic from the list:

-The Neusonic's sound really flat & generic, I don't like the finishes and I watched some reviews showing details on the lack of build quality. Even if it's not the top of the line, being made in the USA means they should be flawless.

-I didn't know that the AQ2 is practically a rebadged Mapex model. I would not spend that kind of money on that.

Here are a couple of the Odery kits (you be the judge) and of course your thoughts & comments are appreciated:

 
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I like em man..

that'd be for me 18" how much are the maple.. but the Birch sounds just as well. I like em. We have a friend in Brazil I could ask him about them but I think Odery has been around long enough they aren't going away. There' seems to be dealers on Reverb one in Texas I see..
 
JDA said:
I like em man..

that'd be for me 18" how much are the maple.. but the Birch sounds just as well. I like em. We have a friend in Brazil I could ask him about them but I think Odery has been around long enough they aren't going away. There' seems to be dealers on Reverb one in Texas I see..
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Pricewise, you can't beat them for what you get and how they sound. A 4 piece shell pack is like $1100 for the Maple and xtra component pieces are available in different sizes at very reasonable prices. The snares are pretty wicked too. The kits are definitely pro level! I'm sure they won't go away but what I mean is go away from the USA. I'm sure your friend in Brazil knows about them. They are big down there! They haven't really grown here so I don't know what future they have here. But in the end, I don't think I'll make that an issue. And thinking about it, I've never broken anything on a drum so I don't think the lack of service would matter anyways. They even design and manufacture all the hardware. Nothing is generic. Tom arms included which is a big plus. They are pretty awesome!
 
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The only thing that scares me about these is that if they go away, how would I get something fixed?

I wouldn't let a company folding or leaving concern me with buying a set of new drums I really love as far as repairs. As long as there are no issues when you buy them (in round, bearing edges, flat/round hoops, chrome, wrap, etc.) you should be good to go. Drums are simple things and although there can always be a one off, I don't think newer drums are really having issues. Especially if just staying set up in the house as would be your case.
 
Gunnellett said:
The only thing that scares me about these is that if they go away, how would I get something fixed?

I wouldn't let a company folding or leaving concern me with buying a set of new drums I really love as far as repairs. As long as there are no issues when you buy them (in round, bearing edges, flat/round hoops, chrome, wrap, etc.) you should be good to go. Drums are simple things and although there can always be a one off, I don't think newer drums are really having issues. Especially if just staying set up in the house as would be your case.
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You are right! I'm not gonna let that sway my decision. And from what I've read, they are pretty well built right off the bat with pretty good QC. Everyone that owns them says that each piece is individually built with love, LOL!
 
they have a little exotic organic craftsmanship to em they're not 'run of the mill' and that's nice to have even if it's somewhat an illusion hell life is half illusion- if it makes you feel good and gives a little extra spark..I'm all for it. 247 drums in Boston
just looking thru the snares on Reverb man.. they look tasty Good.
 
JDA said:
they have a little exotic organic craftsmanship to em they're not 'run of the mill' and that's nice to have even if it's somewhat an illusion hell life is half illusion- if it makes you feel good and gives a little extra spark..I'm all for it. 247 drums in Boston
just looking thru the snares on Reverb man.. they look tasty Good.
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Yeah, I get that vibe off of them. I like stuff that's not common and they definitely are not common.
 
definitely that means a lot (to me too) I'm not trying to push you lean one way or the other but here's a review you may may have not seen I just picked up:
www.musicradar.com

Odery Eyedentity Series drums review

Strikingly different drums for under a grand from the innovative Brazilian company
www.musicradar.com www.musicradar.com
 
JDA said:
definitely that means a lot (to me too) I'm not trying to push you lean one way or the other but here's a review you may may have not seen I just picked up:
www.musicradar.com

Odery Eyedentity Series drums review

Strikingly different drums for under a grand from the innovative Brazilian company
www.musicradar.com www.musicradar.com
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Great article that makes me more excited about them! When it's time to buy, I'll probably be going for them. I really like the Bubinga kit. 4 pc. Bubinga for like $1300. That's nuts!
I'll probably end up throwing in everything they offer xtra: 8, 13, 14 and one of the snares. Might as well have it all!
 
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I messaged Mario in San Paulo- he's a good guy (Dad has a coffee machine maker factory!) and a good drummer await his response. He and I talked about Odery years back (let's see..)

Did you say you have a dealer down the street? Maybe just take the Luddies in and take a little hit and get it over (ovoid..) with Selling a set is tuff in this climate ) just a thought..wouldn't that be something get it all over with at once (ha..
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Ok Mario in San Paulo says:
"I have no idea what the series are called, but the nicer odery drums were well made. Shells were nice and I think they made their own hardware "
 
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JDA said:
I messaged Mario in San Paulo- he's a good guy (Dad has a coffee machine maker factory!) and a good drummer await his response. He and I talked about Odery years back (let's see..)

Did you say you have a dealer down the street? Maybe just take the Luddies in and take a little hit and get it over (ovoid..) with Selling a set is tuff in this climate ) just a thought..wouldn't that be something get it all over with at once (ha..
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Ok Mario in San Paulo says:
"I have no idea what the series are called, but the nicer odery drums were well made. Shells were nice and I think they made their own hardware "
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Cool!
I don't know if the dealer will take trades but I'll ask when I'm ready to buy. I'd do it and take the hit. I hate the hassle of selling stuff. Good idea!
 
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There is an internal sound I hear/feel that I compare everything to and whether it's the tuning, mic'ing, whatever, those Bubinga Explosions sound great! And I love the finish of the Eye402's. I agree, its as much an emotional thing as any well as critical A<->B decision making. How's the song go, 'If it make you happy...'
 
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