Anyone prefer low line pedals vs DW9000 kind of stuff

[Imposing Will]

I have two Pearl Eliminator doubles (these things lose screws and parts left and right), I had an Axis A longboard double (hated the feel), but I have only been playing an Iron Cobra Junior single and double for the last two years. Cheap, simple, light, and fast.

I have two Iron Cobras and an Iron Cobra Jr. I seriously can't feel a difference-except that that IC's feel a little less flexy. No biggie.

 

[VirCotto]

Current pedals: a Tama/Camco, 2 DW 5000's (chain) and a tank-like Tama King Beat that I never use.

Sold my Ghost and the Caroline a couple of years ago and kick myself on a regular basis for it.

However, I have a lead to another Caroline that will be mine, mine, all mine...!

Cheers

Simo

 

[Cannons]

I alternate between a DW 5000 and a Ludwig Accent Combo pedal. It's basically a single chain Pro without the base plate. It plays great, and I got it for $45 or so.

 

[Ron_M]

I've been using the Sonor 400 series pedal for quite few years now, and am happy with it. I have an old Ghost in good working order that I've been meaning to swap in again. I've tried both the flying dragon and eliminator, and years ago (late 80s, early 90s used a DW with the baseplate trigger. In the old days, I used a speedking, then a king beat. The only pedal I really disliked was that kingbeat. Now where did I put that Ghost?

 

[Cauldronics]

Played a speed king on someone else's set and doubles were much easier than on my 5000, but it might've been the way the batter head responded. However, the SK was too floppy and loose for fast singles with power, so I'm still on my 5000. There is probably a happy medium somewhere. I've been on 5000's for 25 years... kinda bored with 'em.

 

[PureRockFury]

I had a set of Sonor 400 series doubles that felt fantastic and had a great build quality to them. In fact, the 400 series as a whole is real nice stuff.

I'm playing a single Yamaha that was convertible from chain to strap. I like the feel of the strap. I think it might be an older Flying Dragon single. The collapsing base plate for storage is awesome.

 

[BennyK]

TAMA/ CAMCO that I traded for a pair of binoculars that cost me 6 bucks at a yard sale. It was clamped on for quite a while, but I'm back with the Yamaha Flying Dragon direct drive.

 

[thenuge]

I've had the same Tama Iron Cobra for the past 10-12 years with no complaints. Before that I tried a lower level Sonor thinking that it was Sonor and what could possibly go wrong...A LOT! was the answer and when it's in the middle of a show and your new pedal craps out, you don't make that mistake again. I also recently bought a lower level pedal (i forget the brand) to have as a backup and that one too just didn't work out. Felt good in the store and terrible on the gig..so I took that one back. My advice is to pay the money for a good pedal.

 

[jrfrond]

Wth the proliferation of pedals on the market currently, it can be tough to choose, and advertising hyperbole attempts to make you believe that you will be faster/better/sexier etc. if you play "The New, Improved Hyper-Speed Cruising Lizard Pedal"

First of all, why the sudden reference to reptiles??? Most reptiles are slow!

Secondly, a pedal is a simple lever system. There are a lots of ways to balance it, and bells and whistles that can be added like baseplates, easy hoops clamps, spurs, infinite adjustability, Ninja bearing, etc. But the reality is that great pedals are nothing new, and you don't have to spend a ton of money to have one. Really, it's OLD technology. I retired my well-used 70's DW5000 only because the wear parts were starting to wear AGAIN (I'd replaced hinges 3x, bearings and springs twice in 30 or so years), and the Pro Pedal wasn't pricey and felt pretty close to the old 5000. No other reasons. Bottom line is: it doesn't matter what you spend. You play what feels good. Hey, Lars Ulrich plays Tama Flexi-Flyers, and you cannot argue with his speed, OR his paycheck!

 

[dmb038]

As a kid I played with Gibraltar chain-driven double pedals. These days I have both the 5000 and the 9000. Both DWs are remarkably better, but for me it is tough to say whether the 5000s or 9000s are better.

 

[createpop]

Due to the DW 5000 design, the sole of shoe stick.
I cannot do double kick well, so I prefer 9000.
It can change a chain to belt drive as well.
Or I like Yamaha FP720 or belt drive one on low line pedals.

 

[Sonorholic]

I've been using DW 5000 strap drives with no plate for the better part of Twenty years now. When the Trick first came out, I tried it out in a store and after a good 45 min. hadn't found anything that felt good at all. Just for kicks I swapped for the cheapest Sonor pedal and it felt great right out of the box. I've tried a couple of the fancy pedals ( Axis/ Dw 9000) but keep coming back to the simple ones. They just work for me. As long as I can get the stroke and spring tension the way I like, the rest doesn't make much difference. Other than weight... most of the newer heavy double chain drive ones, just make my leg/knee/ankle hurt after a while.

 

[BillBachman]

I do. I like the idea of low mass. The fewer bells and whistles the less mass at rest to put in motion. And then the double chain thing--has anyone ever broken a chain? I'm single chain all day long and happy.

 

[vintagedrummersweden]

Tried quite alot of pedals. Iron Cobra, Rogers Swivo, Speed King, all kinds of Pearl, a few Yamaha, Ghost (very nice pedal!), DW's and currently some of my sons Axis'.

Always get back to Tama-Camco. after all these years...
Simple, no fuzz pedals.

/L

 

[RyanR]

These Ludwig Pro pedals, are they the newer ones with the chain drive? I haven't kept up with their hardware lately.

Yep. They're technically an 800/modular series pedal. I'm glad that Ludwig ditched the giant foot boards of the 90's.

I alternate between a DW 5000 and a Ludwig Accent Combo pedal. It's basically a single chain Pro without the base plate. It plays great, and I got it for $45 or so.

Just keep an eye on the set screw(s) that hold the cam and beater on the horizontal shaft. If things loosen up, the cam will get eaten up fast. The Accent/Combo stuff is nice for the price... and the weight. I have the HH-stand, throne, and snare stand for the "'round the house" kit. Might get another set of those for the gigging kit. I'm tired of heavy stuff...

-Ryan

 

[slinginit]

Just curious about one thing: DW places a small bearing on the spring rocker. Does this make much of a difference?? If so, can these be fitted on other pedals?

Thanks!