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Interesting article by Steve DelVecchio...

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/why-are-some-deflategate-text-messages-being-ignored/ar-BBjJaTI

The text messages that were exchanged between two New England Patriots employees are the closest thing to a smoking gun that Ted Wells discovered in his lengthy Deflategate investigation. If those conversations are so important, why are some of the details in the messages being ignored?
A lot of the text messages that officials locker room attendant Jim McNally and equipment assistant John Jastremski sent back and forth are open to interpretation. After extensive research and numerous interviews, Wells felt confident that McNally and Jastremski were discussing the act of illegally letting air out of game balls.
But why has no one mentioned the text messages that reference game balls being inflated to 16 PSI?
On Oct. 17, the morning after the Patriots defeated the New York Jets, McNally and Jastremski exchanged several text messages that seemed to indicate Tom Brady was upset over footballs being over-inflated.
“I checked some of the balls this morn…” Jastremski wrote to McNally. “The refs f—ed us…a few of them were almost at 16. They didn’t recheck (them) after they put air in them.”
McNally then responded by saying “F– Tom…16 is nothing…wait till next Sunday,” which was obviously sarcasm and McNally’s way of joking that he’s going to screw Brady, who has openly admitted he likes a softer ball.
Before he mentioned the 16 PSI issue to McNally, Jastremski also texted his fiancee about it.
“Ugh…Tom was right,” he wrote. “I just measured some of the balls. They supposed to be 13 lbs… They were like 16. Felt like bricks.”
It’s certainly possible that McNally or Jastremski or someone else has let air out of game balls after they were inspected by officials at some point, but it seems fairly obvious what happened the night the Patriots played the Jets.
Remember how Aaron Rodgers admitted that he likes to turn in footballs that are over-inflated to see if the officials will let air out of them? In all likelihood, the Patriots turned in balls that were under-inflated before their game against the Jets, and the officials put more air in them after measuring the PSI. Since Jastremski was discussing the balls being severely over-inflated the next morning, that means McNally — aka the “Deflator” — obviously was unable to let air out of them after the officials inspected them.
Of course, you could argue that the portion of the conversation where Yastremski mentioned balls being over-inflated by officials was all a lie. That would be convenient.
What’s the point? The NFL rules clearly state that game balls are supposed to be inflated to within 12.5-13.5 PSI. If that’s the case, should officials — like the one who thought he remembered which gauge he used but Wells told him he was wrong — be over-inflating them by 2.5 pounds? If gripping a ball that is roughly 1-1.5 PSI underinflated (here are the numbers) is an advantage, wouldn’t gripping one that is 2.5 PSI overinflated be a serious disadvantage?
Let me guess, Jastremski’s mention of balls that were at 16 PSI is all part of his master plan to cover up the crime, right?
Am I saying the Patriots didn’t deflate game balls before the AFC Championship Game? No. Am I saying someone needs to address why an official allegedly over-inflated a team’s game balls by 2.5 pounds? Yes. For whatever reason, Wells chose not to look into that.
 
and if the refs are over-inflating them, I wonder what their punishment will be?
oh, wait.....

Man, do I hope this backfires on Goodell, in a big way. For the kind of money he's getting paid,
to pull something like this is reprehensible
 
Well pointed out Xsabers and Tomb I agree, I think this is so going to backfire on Goodell, he will resign.
 
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I can't believe that this thing has come back again. The league is way over the top and there's no consistency in the control of the situation. Around here of course it was front page news ahead of way more serious stuff, so that's a drag too. Just another example of how folks can get all worked up over nothing. I'm glad I can ignore it for the most part.
 
Sonorholic said:
Just another example of how folks can get all worked up over nothing.
I see you're from "MA", hmmmmm?
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Ignoring, deflecting, denying and making excuses is what we've come to expect from Patriot's fans, because...THEY...didn't get cheated.
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Hate all you want. We'll stand behind our 4 time Superbowl Champion NE Patriots. And the knowledge that this witch hunt will finally take down Goodell, and the haters heads will collectively explode when all is said and done. Priceless!
 
Tomb said:
Hate all you want. We'll stand behind our 4 time Superbowl Champion NE Patriots. And the knowledge that this witch hunt will finally take down Goodell, and the haters heads will collectively explode when all is said and done. Priceless!
You can't imagine how mean I'm not being right now.
 
Sneauman said:
Just another example of how folks can get all worked up over nothing.
I see you're from "MA", hmmmmm?
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Ignoring, deflecting, denying and making excuses is what we've come to expect from Patriot's fans, because...THEY...didn't get cheated.
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Sorry, but the amount of concern and coverage this has gotten is so very very insane. Like a couple of psi is the only reason they won. If you truly believe that, then I have a bridge to sell you. For the record, I'm not a huge sports fan. This just shows how truly stupid we can be as humans. You can say whatever you want about it.. doesn't change the situation at all.
 
You are correct. The couple of psi is not the only reason they won. They have been proven to use several other techniques to break the rules of sportsmanship. And no doubt, they use multiple modes through every game. Sure, the cowboys did similar things too, but the fact is, they were willing to go low in their quest for winning at all costs. Good on you for being a fan. I guess that your local sports franchise is just a little better than our local sports franchise. Hooray!
 
Sonorholic said:
Just another example of how folks can get all worked up over nothing.
I see you're from "MA", hmmmmm?
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Ignoring, deflecting, denying and making excuses is what we've come to expect from Patriot's fans, because...THEY...didn't get cheated.
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Sorry, but the amount of concern and coverage this has gotten is so very very insane. Like a couple of psi is the only reason they won. If you truly believe that, then I have a bridge to sell you. For the record, I'm not a huge sports fan. This just shows how truly stupid we can be as humans. You can say whatever you want about it.. doesn't change the situation at all.



Then why risk all this for cheating in an area that doesn't matter?
 
Sorry, but the amount of concern and coverage this has gotten is so very very insane. This just shows how truly stupid we can be as humans. You can say whatever you want about it.. doesn't change the situation at all.
I have to respectfully disagree, this has NOT gotten enough attention, they are doing everything they can to "just do enough" to make this go away, is all. It doesn't seem like anyone REALLY wants to get to the truth. They (the league) just wants this to be over with, once and for all. If they truly suspended Brady without proof, then they just made it worse, what dummies.

On the flip-side, in reasonable people's minds...there is more than enough evidence because we all KNOW that the balls WERE deflated...PERIOD...and THAT is the proof!

The cheating...HAPPENED, come to grips with reality and quit defending the cheaters. Just because there is no "video evidence" or an admission of guilt, does NOT mean the cheating did not happen, it just means there was a successful, concerted effort to HIDE THE CHEATING!

I mean c'mon man, what did you expect to happen, cheating is against the rules...did you REALLY expect someone to own up to it and ADMIT IT, when they took such concise steps to insure there would be no proof?

Be for real, they MADE SURE there was no definitive proof, because they are cold and calculating cheaters, they are professionals at it, and have been doing it for YEARS and this is NOT THE FIRST TIME THEY HAVE BEEN CAUGHT CHEATING. For anyone to even think that the Patriots, of all teams, would not cheat, given their history...is purely delusional and merely engaging in wishful thinking. :laughing6:
 
Oh, you are all sore, cause every team could have had Brady 5 times over, and the Pats got him. This report is all over Boston radio and media, and it is soooooooooooooooo full of holes, swiss cheese looks solid.

Goodell is chasing a witch hunt, in the end I think he will be the one who gets burned.
 
Am I the only one who thinks it's ridiculous there is this much talk about deflated footballs? Did it happen? Of course it did. Proof? Nope. If the Pats and Belechik didn't have the "we're smarter than everyone else" attitude and continue to push what they can get away with none of this would be going on. I'm sure every other team breaks rules. But the arrogance of that team is amazing. I don't think it's Kraft, I think it;s Bill. oth sides of this argument are comical. The fact that air pressure in footballs is such a hugh topic is just plain sad
 
As far as players on the Pats...I would take "Gronk" over anybody else. Brady is good, and would be an upgrade to my local sports franchise, but there are better players on their team.
 
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